Legislature(2005 - 2006)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/02/2006 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 321 AGGRAVATED DRUNK DRIVING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 394 INSURANCE POLICIES IN FOREIGN LANGUAGES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 394(L&C) Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
= HB 395 FIRE SEASON START DATE
Moved CSHB 395(FIN) Out of Committee
1:48:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 394                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act relating  to allowing insurance  policies  to be                                                                   
     filed, approved,  and delivered in languages  other than                                                                   
     English if an official English  language version is also                                                                   
     provided.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MIKE PAWLOWSKI, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE  KEVIN MEYER, explained                                                                   
that HB 394 would remove an obstacle  that prevents companies                                                                   
from  serving  the 80,000  Alaskans  that currently  speak  a                                                                   
language other than English.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The  problem  is  that  in  current   statute,  there  is  no                                                                   
provision, designating  which version of an  insurance policy                                                                   
or associated  materials would be  the official version.   At                                                                   
this   time,  all   materials  are   published  in   English.                                                                   
Designating  an  official  version  in  English  would  allow                                                                   
companies to service their customers better.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:49:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch  questioned  if the  Department  of                                                                   
Commerce,  Community  &  Economic  Development  supports  the                                                                   
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:50:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Pawlowski  responded  that  the  Division  of  Insurance                                                                   
representative  was not  able  to come  to the  meeting.   He                                                                   
noted the letter in member's indicating support.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch asked why the bill was needed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:50:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHELDON  WINTERS,  REPRESENTATIVE  FOR STATE  FARM  INSURANCE                                                                   
suggested that  HB 394 is  a win-win  bill.  It  benefits the                                                                   
consumer and the  industry, as it provides a  better product.                                                                   
The Division of Insurance supports it.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Winters  pointed  out  in   today's  society,  insurance                                                                   
permeates   basically  everything.     The   intent  of   the                                                                   
   legislation  is  to provide  better  information   about the                                                                 
   insurance product to foreign speaking customers so that they                                                                 
   can make wiser choices about their insurance decisions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   In Alaska Court case law, when  there is a dispute about the                                                                 
   insurance contract, the  court will look  to the language of                                                                 
   the insurance policy and any  other evidence.  The bill does                                                                 
   not control that, but does  address the concern if insurance                                                                 
   companies provide  foreign  language advertising  or policy.                                                                 
   The  English   version  controls   as  long   as  the  other                                                                 
   requirements  are  met.    Mr.  Winters  offered  to  answer                                                                 
   questions of the Committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   1:53:47 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Co-Chair Meyer  inquired  if  the  burden  would  be  on the                                                                 
   insurance companies.   Mr. Winters replied  it would.  There                                                                 
   is nothing  that  prohibits  the  insurance  companies  from                                                                 
   issuing foreign language advertising.   When filing with  the                                                                
   Division of Insurance,  the actual  policy form  would be  in                                                                
   English.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   1:54:22 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Representative Weyhrauch asked  why the bill  was needed and                                                                 
   what currently prohibits it under State law.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   1:54:48 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Mr. Winters responded  that there is  nothing that prohibits                                                                 
   the practice  except for  the Supreme  Court case  law, if  a                                                                
   foreign language version available,  the Supreme Court could                                                                 
   base their  dispute on  the fact  that the  foreign language                                                                 
   version would control.  Given  that, insurance companies  are                                                                
 reluctant to issue any information in a foreign language.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   1:55:27 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Representative  Weyhrauch asked  if  there  is  a difference                                                                 
   between a  foreign  language  and an  English  version  of  a                                                                
   policy, then which version would control.  Mr. Winters noted                                                                 
   that the legislation would  clarify that the English version                                                                 
   would rule.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   Representative Weyhrauch asked if that was true, even if the                                                                 
   customer  was  not  able  to  read  English.    Mr.  Winters                                                                 
   clarified that  without  the  provision, there  would  be  no                                                                
   foreign  language  provision  at  all.    The  idea  is that                                                                 
   information would  be  provided  in a  foreign  language  for                                                                
   their information,  but a  disclaimer  would exist  that the                                                                 
   English version  ultimately  controls.   The  point  is  that                                                                
   without the  bill,  the  foreign language-speaking  customer                                                                 
   will have no translation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:56:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch asked if  the Court presently  uses                                                                   
all evidence, has there been overriding  of that ruling.  Mr.                                                                   
Winters  understood that  was the direction  of the  Statute.                                                                   
He added,  it would  only apply to  documents in  English and                                                                   
not a foreign language.  There  would be a disclosure in both                                                                   
languages.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:57:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  observed   testimony  indicating  that                                                                   
"foreign"  really meant  non-English.   He  advised that  the                                                                   
Alaska Native  language is not foreign and  recommended using                                                                   
"non-English" speaking.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Winters apologized,  noting they had attempted  to change                                                                   
it to non-English.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:58:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  took responsibility for  the use of  the word                                                                   
foreign.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:59:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  asked  if  the change  had  been  made                                                                   
elsewhere in  Statute.  Mr. Winters  did not know.   Co-Chair                                                                   
Meyer interjected that this was  the first time the issue had                                                                   
come up as far as he knew.  Representative  Kelly inquired if                                                                   
he thought it would be the first of many.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:59:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer did  not know;  he admitted  that he did  not                                                                   
know if other industries would  need the extra documentation.                                                                   
Mr. Winters  did not  think the  legislation would  "open the                                                                   
flood  gates".  The  insurance  arena is unique.   Court  law                                                                   
interprets  an  insurance  contract  very strictly.    In  an                                                                   
insurance  dispute, there  is a case  precedence noting  that                                                                   
the review  would not  be limited to  the contract,  which is                                                                   
the concern.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:01:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  worried  that  changing  the  language                                                                   
would affect many other statutory concerns.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer did  not agree with that concern,  noting that                                                                   
English is the dominant language  and the one accepted by the                                                                   
State.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   Mr.  Winters  added  that   the  legislation  addresses   the                                                                
   opportunity to provide policy  brochures in both English  and                                                                
   non-English.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Representative Kelly provided an  example of his involvement                                                                 
   on a bank  board.  He  reiterated his concern  about all the                                                                 
   other potential agencies that could be affected.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   2:03:29 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Representative Foster  discussed the  influx of  people from                                                                 
   Southeast Asia in Nome and how the legislation could benefit                                                                 
   them in business.   He added  that for the  most part, there                                                                 
   are elders that  cannot read  English.  He  thought that the                                                                 
   bill would fill a missing void.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   2:05:35 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Representative Weyhrauch  asserted that  insurance companies                                                                 
   can  already  provide  the   non-English  information.     He                                                                
   stressed that  the concern  remains, the legal  immunity  and                                                                
   deterrent of the insured.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   2:06:14 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Mr. Pawlowski  pointed out  that  the legislation  would not                                                                 
   provide a policy call for knowingly misrepresenting terms  in                                                                
   the foreign language,  as that  would be a  violation of the                                                                 
   chapter.  The dilemma is that  no translation can be perfect                                                                 
   and being a translation, it would  attempt to be as close as                                                                 
   possible.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
   2:06:57 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Representative Weyhrauch stated that insurance companies are                                                                 
   well advised to avoid punitive damages.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   2:07:53 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Representative Kelly asked if consideration had been made  to                                                                
   adding  language  that  could   cover  all  statutes.     Mr.                                                                
   Pawlowski  responded  they  had  not  gone  that  far.   The                                                                 
   legislation clarifies that  English is  the official version                                                                 
   for insurance.   The larger  issues were not  addressed.   As                                                                
   far as  the  State  is concerned,  English  is  the official                                                                 
   version.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   2:08:54 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   Co-Chair Meyer agreed,  noting that English  is the dominant                                                                 
   language.  Representative  Kelly predicted  other businesses                                                                 
   would want the same consideration down the road.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   2:09:32 PM                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster   MOVED  to  REPORT  HB   394  out  of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying zero note.  There  being NO OBJECTION, it was so                                                                   
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CS HB 394 (L&C)  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "no"                                                                   
recommendation  and with zero  note #1  by the Department  of                                                                   
Commerce, Community & Economic Development.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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